“ethereum mining vs buying”

“ethereum mining vs buying”

Hi Kannon, I stumbled across your article and found that it filled in a lot of gaps as I consider building a beginner rig for mining. Do you have any monitor recommendations, something for loading the system, maintenance, etc? I found many options but I’m not familiar with this configuration and worried about spending on something that is not compatible.
OK so this sounds like a problem with your graphics card driver. Are you using the latest driver for your card? If you’re using a standard Windows driver, this could be the cause of your problem. So I suggest you check out the relevant Nvidia or AMD website and get the latest GPU drivers for your machine.
If it’s not included in your driver software, you’ll need a utility that monitors overclocking and temperatures. (While overclocking is not intended for more advanced users, it may reduce the lifetime of your GPU, and certain minor alterations may yield significant hash-rate improvements.)
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Why do you need yo use the powered risers with the B250 MB? If I need to use powered risers do I need to make sure each bank A/B/C GPU and riser is from same PS? Or all powered risers need to be on PS as MB?
The transition to the PoS-algorithm will allow to reduce energy costs as much as possible without requiring real resources, since it will not need large computing powers, and hence users with equipment. This means that miners will soon be obsolete. But while ETH mining remains traditional, ordinary users still have a chance to get a rapidly developing cryptocurrency on their wallet.
Any others: Do not trust any random names on the internet, bitcoin is a currency that cant be chargeback in anyway and so thieves are out there looking to steal your bitcoins so be prepared and dont invest in every single website you find out there. Some are legit, some scams.
Also I disagree that trusting the miners is foolish, yes 99% are in it for the profits but there is a balance between the difficulty, price, and gross hash power, and it seems to be working. Even if difficulty doubles (depending on your electricity) it still has a 12 to 18 month payback without price inflation.
TJ Hooker, an AC unit takes MORE than 1W of electricity to remove 1W of heat. Air conditioning (and all heat exchangers for that matter) are not energy efficient. 2nd law of thermodynamics, and all that jazz. If he’s pumping 1000W of heat into the room, he’s probably using close to 1500W-2000W of air conditioning to offset it.
– Our mining plan at HashFlare has 25 MH/s mining power and gives us 2.5 US$ daily (ETH price stands at 1100$ and there are no maintenance or electricity fees). Currently, you pay for the same contract 550$. If Ether price and difficulty stay the same, payback time for this cloud mining plan is less than 7 months. As a contract lasts a year, you are 5 months in profit.
For proper mining, separate hardware needs to be dedicated to integrating higher hash rate GPU’s. On top of the list best performance, video cards are of AMD and NVIDIA GEFORCE. The AMD Radeon R9 295X2 gives the performance of 57.6 MH/s but the power it consumes is a lot and care need to be taken in that way. AMD Radeon RX 480 and Radeon RX 580 are best value performers with 25-27 MH/s and power usage can be reduced using some tweaks.
The hashrate keeps falling quite fast and a flood of RX cards may hit the market when they’re no longer usable for Ethereum mining. Those who want to mine other altcoins may be possible to pick up some bargains.
1x Custom Mining Case –  I’d recommend an Open Air 6 GPU Mining Case. I’ve built several of these 6 GPU rigs for family and friends using this particular mining case works quite well for airflow and ease of building.
If you’re into Linux, Eth OS is a 64-bit Linux OS that mines Ethereum, Zcash, Monero, and other GPU-minable coins.  If you’re a windows guy, here is Windows 10.  If you’re going to be using Windows, you’ll need mining software.  Take a look at this Ethereum Mining on a Windows PC guide.
With projects like Golem you’ll be able to hire out your compute power through Ethereum to industries such as science, mining, CGI movie producers, etc…who generally need huge capital to invest in their own super computer data centers.
1) A MotherBoard – A motherboard is the brain of the computer and is what you build everything onto – the base of your mining rig. The main feature you are looking for in a motherboard is the number of GPU slots it has as this will determine how many graphics cards or GPU’s it can fit – and in the end your total hashing power. 3 PCI Express slots will mean you can fit 3 x Radeon HD 7950 with a hashrate of 20 MH/s each – or a total hashing power of 60 MH/s. A PCI Express slot is a connection port on the motherboard and looks like the picture below – they are often coloured white but can be beige – you can get other types of slots but most GPU’s work on a PCI express.
Eobot is the easiest, cheapest, and best way to mine ETH. You can mine and hash cryptocurrency with Cloud Mining, or you can use any CPU or GPU for any coin, SHA-256 or Scrypt, any computer, as many computers, and with immediate mining results.
The hash rate of the RX 460 is reported to be around 11 mega-hashes per second (MHS). With a “peak” wattage consumption of 75 watts, that translates to 0.147 MHS/W. The 470 produces a hash rate of around 25 MHS with a power consumption of around 120 watts for 0.208 MHS/W. Of the two, the 470 offers better efficiency per watt. But the 460 is easier to deploy on low-cost, low-end systems. And the 470 costs a great deal more on secondary markets. More or less, the 470 is running for well over $350 on eBay, whereas you can still get a 460 for around $100.
SharkMining was founded by BIZON company. BIZON is a Silicon Valley-based company specializing in software and hardware development of external graphics cards and high-end computers. 500+ companies trust BIZON (Tesla, Samsung, Google, Amazon, Oculus, Facebook, Stanford University). All the SharkMining rigs designed and assembled by the team of hardware and software engineers with 10 years experience.
My Ether Wallet is not a standard Web Wallet. It does not allow you to create an account and to store your Ether on their servers, they simply allow you create a wallet, which is yours to store and keep safe, and to broadcast your transactions on the…
Click on “next” and you will be redirected to “configure instance details” to access advanced settings for your instance. We suggest leaving everything as is, unless you feel extremely comfortable in what you are doing. A particularly interesting feature is the “purchasing options”: if you click on “request spot instances” you can specify the bid parameters for purchasing the computational power needed to launch your instance. Don’t overlook this feature if you want to be in control of the instance costs. As Amazon suggests: you have the option to request Spot Instances and specify the maximum price you are willing to pay per instance hour. If you bid higher than the current Spot Price, your Spot Instance is launched and will be charged at the current Spot Price. Spot Prices often are significantly lower than On-Demand prices, so using Spot Instances for flexible, interruption-tolerant applications can lower your instance costs by up to 90%. Learn more about Spot Instances: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/console/ec2/spot-instances. We want to highligth this: IF YOU ARE INTERRUPTION-TOLERANT!
I have a mining rig at home as well to compare the income variations. (you can check any ETH mining difficulties chart which is available online too). What i can conclude is that the Genesis Mining payout declining speed is faster than the actual mining difficulty increase rate.
 – For Power Supplies, you want to double check that your PSU has enough connections to support the number of GPU’s you are running and enough overall wattage to support your total system power draw (and to give yourself some buffer of at least 10-15%). A helpful site for identifying how many 6 or 8 pin PCI-E power connections your GPU will require is here (Realhardtechx.com) and to get a sense of your overall system power draw, this is a good power consumption calculator (outervision).  Pro Tip: if building multiple rigs stick with the same brand PSU as you can use extra cables on your other systems if needed (e.g. I use only EVGA G2 PSU’s so if I have extra VGA, sata or molex cables from one build I can use them on another build).
Now, for the ease of this experiment – let’s compare Ethereum mining – DIY and Cloud contract from Hashflare.io. Also, I will assume you already have basic components – like motherboard, pc risers, processor and so on – and the one and only investment you are concerned is – adding a new graphics card.
Have a look at the quality-price ratio when choosing your video cards. Feel free to contact 2Miners support for an advice. By default you could purchase NVIDIA GTX 1060/1070 – this is a good option for beginners: there are many brands to choose from, and these cards are universal, so they work both on Ethash and Equihash algorithms. Do not combine AMD and NVIDIA GPUs on the same rig – if you choose AMD, then buy 8 AMD GPUs, if you select NVIDIA, then buy 8 NVIDIA GPUs.
The conversion process isn’t completely straightforward, though. In the case of hardware miners, you can work out the monthly running cost by multiplying your electricity charge (ie: $ per KWh) by the power consumption of the unit and by a conversion factor of 0.744 (the ratio of seconds per month to joules of energy per KWh).
This article didn’t address the mining difficulty of Ethereum. At this point, is not a good idea to mine ethereum unless people have hash rates in the GH/s or at least MH/s. It’s better to mine other alt coins such as: XMR, LTC, and many others. Overstock.com will now accept 40+ different Altcoins as form of payment. Won’t be long before other companies do as well.
So with no other alt-coins and no GPU PoW, your options are to try and sell on a depressed market, or to actually realise the actual comput value of having kickass super computers in your lounge room.
The mining demand has driven prices well above their normal retail price, but when it comes to a relatively cheap videocards with a solid performance currently available on the market, AMD’s R9 390(X) seems to beat other cards. Even though it tends to be a relatively old card (the R9 series was introduced back in 2015), it has aged far more gracefully than the more recent RX 400 / 500 series (which launched in 2016 and 2017, respectively).
I think you also brought up in an earlier convo the point that the current stock has essentially sold out worldwide, so difficulty can’t keep increasing at the current rate. If there’s no new hashing power in the world that people can purchase and put online to hash ETH, then difficulty can’t keep increasing at the current rate. This difficulty “plateau” would be necessary for the 6-8 month, or even a 12 month ROI – and I certainly hope it is the case. Of course if nvidia’s volta comes in May or AMD comes out with midrange vegas or increases the supply of polarises then people will likely soak up all the GPU’s and difficulty will increase until it’s game over and it’s not even profitable vs. electricity.
Exactly. Difficulty is goig up, price is going down, and to add more insult to injury the resale value is terrible. 6 months ago was a great time to get into mining, but today you might not even break even.
although power price is very cheaper in my country but I hope ETH price goes higher , but ETH going to POS in couple of months am I right ? even if eth POS ed we can mine ETC and other profitable currencies so I will not sell my rigs
2. What PSU valtage do you recoment since both the logic that you used with the 20% rule and calculator by OuterVision (https://outervision.com/power-supply-calculator) (the same as the CoolerMaster one) is suggesting that you buy “bigger” PSU? (GPUs use a variable of 150, meaning around 1000 and then adding the processor and the 20% rule getting us at 1600W PSU or 2x650W PSUs) And since we are the the PSU topic – what brands do you recommend and do you recommend getting 2 PSU in the first place?
Also take a look at this chart: https://etherscan.io/chart/hashrate [4]. That tells us that hashing has gone up from 5,700GH/s around Jan 1 to 48,000 GH/s which is an almost 10x increase. So now you have 1/10th the chance of discovering the next block compared to just over 6 months ago. Extrapolate this kind of exponential growth forward over 2 years and you should see that the yield is looking nothing like 32 ETH. If you’re making 1.5 ETH a month this month, next month it’ll be maybe 1 ETH (or less) and so on. In 2 years you’ll be making basically nothing per month, definitely not 1.5 ETH. Believe me – I’ve done this with BTC mining and never made a profit.

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